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Missing HB · Dec 20, 2010, 10:13 AM // 10:13

To answer OP : yes and no. No , because that's same everywhere. You know hazard games where you can gain a lot , but also some contest where you can win ps3 or comps. However , i say yes concerning who wins it ( i especially remember henchman contest where hazardly , half winners were in [ZoS] guild ).

So , for me the only unfair thing is if selected people they know are part of winners. Otherwise , it's not really unfair ( if yo uwant other example , consider people who get mini ghost from hall chest ...)

Coast · Dec 20, 2010, 10:23 AM // 10:23

wts kanaxai 10000euros, so ye.
These prices should not be given.
Give concept art books and so instead imo, or even better: those art programs or w/e they are

Hobbs · Dec 20, 2010, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Who cares? It doesn't affect you in a negative way in the slightest, hell it even brings the prices of the minis down so it benefits you. So instead of being a whiner realise that because you do no work and others put in a lot of time and effort you can buy a mini Kanaxai or MKG cheaper. Congratulations!

Crom The Pale · Dec 20, 2010, 11:01 AM // 11:01

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

Um, I don't get it.

People want money in Guild Wars?

Seriously, why would anyone need 10k ecto's? If anything, I'd be complaining that there is no writers category.

Total agreement on this statement. I love to write and can't draw a stick figure so why is my talent any less deserving a contest/reward then others?

reaper with no name · Dec 20, 2010, 11:10 AM // 11:10

So, if I understand this thread correctly, Winry is jealous that somebody who wins an art contest will get an item that offers absolutely no mechanical advantage in-game, that they could theoretically sell for a ton of ectos.

I'm finding it very difficult to describe how stupid this is.

Why shouldn't anet be able to give away whatever they want to whoever they want, so long as it doesn't break game balance? Because it makes you feel as though your farming is less effective than someone else's? Because someone else has a talent that you don't and is able to get something out of it?

Who are you to say that winning the art contest is easier than getting 10k ecto (or whatever arbitrary value you want to assign to the rewards)? The difficulty in winning the art contest is directly proportional to the number of people entering it and their skill level. Anyone can get 10k ecto if they bother to take the time to do it (heck, you don't even have to actually play the game, you can simply powertrade). Not everyone can win the art contest (by definition).

This entire idea of the art contest being unfair because the rewards are too high comes down to this:

"They shouldn't be able to get that wealth more easily than me!"

Which is a variation on the classic:

"If I can't have it, then neither should they."

Why do you want to keep other people down, at no benefit to yourself or anyone else? To force them to do it your way? Why? To make you feel better and ease your inferiority complex? I've got news for you: there will always be people ahead of you in the ectos game. You're way too late to catch up. Some of them worked harder than you to get there, some not as much. What's one more?

If getting as much money as you can is what you find fun, then the amount of money that other players have shouldn't matter to you.

If having more money than everyone else is what you find fun, then you're screwed, because you will never have as much money as some players.

Do you think it will make a mockery of your attempts at garnering wealth? Do you think it will trivialize all the effort you put into getting to where you are? How would one person, competing with several others to claim a limited prize trivialize mere grind? It should be the other way around. A person who has to beat other people to take a prize should feel trivialized if their rewards can also be achieved without such competition by any random dude who puts enough time into it.

Also, this is a game. The rewards have no non-sentimental value. The desire to deprive someone of something that has value only to them makes no sense, unless it is out of sheer malice (which it can't be in this case, because it is directed at a generic yet specific person).

This is petulant, immature, and a waste of time, even by internet forum standards.

So, in summary:

What is this I don't even

Verity · Dec 20, 2010, 11:24 AM // 11:24

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Originally Posted by reaper with no name

This is petulant, immature, and a waste of time, even by internet forum standards.

That about sums it up.

yitjuan · Dec 20, 2010, 11:28 AM // 11:28

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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

Well don't you think its little bit unfair that many people have trouble filling up hom(50 mini pets, armors, weapons, money titles, etc) despite working hard cos they just cost too much?
Personally i farmed many of zkeys through pvp n heaps of speedclears but i still dont have enough to fill up hom.

But if you win the stupid Art Contest, u make more than what most people make in 5 years. How is that fair?

No. But only stupid people complain about things like this.

SpyderArachnid · Dec 20, 2010, 12:40 PM // 12:40

This sounds like a "I can't have it, so no one should have it" QQ cry thread.

It is this simple Winry. You seem to forget this, and I have said this before in other threads.

Anet can reward whatever they want. It doesn't matter how much you see it go for ingame. We as a Community set the prices of these minis, not Anet. To them, this is a regular mini like any other mini out there. But to us, since 90% of the community is greedy, it is an extremely expensive mini.

Anet doesn't set the price for ingame items, we do as a community. Just because we charge outlandish prices for something, doesn't mean anything to Anet. Anet will continue to do things their way and reward what they choose regardless of the overpriced market prices we have set for ourselves.

So yes, let them reward someone with an ingame item that costs a ton of money. We have no one to blame but ourselves for that mini being so expensive. Anet didn't set the price of it, we did. That mini is equal to any other mini in Anet's eyes. They don't base their rewards off our community based market.

So instead of crying about it, ask yourself "Does this affect my gameplay at all in any way shape or form?". Your answer would be no. It doesn't. It won't affect your game in any way if someone named xXxNarutoxXx wins a mini. You will probably never see that person ever ingame anyways, so why do you care?

Like I said before, it is the community that sets the prices on how expensive something is, not Anet. They are not at fault for giving a "community based expensive ingame item" as a reward. To them, it is just another basic mini.

I think this thread just needs to be closed.

RedDog91 · Dec 20, 2010, 12:48 PM // 12:48

By this logic the $100,000 tourny series ANET did was unfair since not everyone is good at GvG and/or hero battles.

Winry Rockbell · Dec 20, 2010, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by RedDog91

By this logic the $100,000 tourny series ANET did was unfair since not everyone is good at GvG and/or hero battles.

No cos that requires skill.
Art Contest is totally different cos you can easily get help or hire someone to do the job for ya.

KiyaKoreena · Dec 20, 2010, 01:23 PM // 13:23

I was one of the two that won a Kanaxai through the art contests. Did it make me richer? NO because I did not sell it and will not sell it. It didn't magically make Obsidian armor appear on any of my chars, I earned that by picking up every little white drop and a heck of a lot of selling of low end items. And btw MKG isn't even getting near 5k ecto anymore. If it was I would have one less mini already and the Workshop would have a lot more prizes right now.

RedDog91 · Dec 20, 2010, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

No cos that requires skill.
Art Contest is totally different cos you can easily get help or hire someone to do the job for ya.

GvG you could have hired more skilled players players to fight for your guild.
Hero battles you could hire a more skilled player to make the builds or play for you.

Your argument is so poor that it can easily be turned against you.

As stated above me, most winners don't sell their winnings. Holding on to it gives them a status that other players can only hope to have. Not that its used for bragging rights, but it pretty much entitles you to them.

Warvic · Dec 20, 2010, 01:38 PM // 13:38

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Originally Posted by End

I think its unfair that people with an actual talent get rewarded vs. us people who roll our faces over our keyboards...

I'm not against the rewards. But they could be a lil bit less extreme ^^ But your post doesn't make sense. As you think it's better to give rewards to people who do NOT play the game. Next time i juggle the football 100 times and record. Will i get a reward bcoz i'm not rolling my head over the frking keyboard? No, ofcourse not!

And yes, i know that art is something else then football. Hence why i don't mind the rewards.

Deviant Angel · Dec 20, 2010, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Does this thread really exist or am I having a hilarious dream? *rubs eyes*

Those of you complaining about the rewards need to ask yourself this: do you need them to survive? You might need a reality check if the answer was yes.

Everyone is capable of creating art! Create something... enter it... hope for the best. Stop bitching and moaning about how other people put a lot of time and effort into something and got rewarded for it. You look dumb.

FengShuiDove · Dec 20, 2010, 02:13 PM // 14:13

This thread is still alive?

You say end chest drops are a normal part of GW and therefore "fair." In other words, you're saying a roll of the dice is more fair than a contest based on legitimate talent.

The only reason you would possibly be making this argument, outside sheer insanity, is that you have no artistic talent. Probably both things, after reading your arguments.

The contest produces enjoyable art that is fun for all GW fans. I'm fine with rewarding their efforts with unique and rare items. Plus, if I enter the contest and am beat by somebody more talented, it's an understandable loss. If I do the exact same dungeon with a guildie, same time and effort, same success level, and he gets a rare end-chest and I don't, THAT is unfair.

You're entirely backwards, and this is a terrible thread.

snowman relic · Dec 20, 2010, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

Well i already heard that couple people are planning on hiring pro(using multi accs) for next art contest, n they are already rich in gw.

On the in game business side i see this as a great idea, as a realist i see this as pointless for in game money, morally i see this as wrong, but for the sake of fun to get anything you want in game this is a great idea.

yitjuan · Dec 20, 2010, 02:42 PM // 14:42

damn 4 pages of us forumers getting trolled by a new dupe.

MithranArkanere · Dec 20, 2010, 03:10 PM // 15:10

I don't mind the rewards people get from contests. Any reward they get will be fine by me, regardless of how exclusive and unique it is...

...as long as they are customized for the account, not tradable and they can create as many as they want with a certain command, like with /bonusitems.

When you get promotional items, you can recreate them as many times as you want.
So items like the CE miniatures and contest rewards should be unlimited and not tradable.

It's YOUR reward for YOU doing something, something YOU must keep, not sell.
Rewards from doing things outside the game should not be an injection of cash, but something you can enjoy and show to prove you were amongst those that did that.

Getting your name in an NPC can't be sold, either.

MuleGoon · Dec 20, 2010, 03:32 PM // 15:32

What is this "MKG" of which you speak?

Rushin Roulette · Dec 20, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34

The MKG is a Mad Kings Guard miniature that was a prize given from last years Halloween Art contest.